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Going Public: The Foundation And The Future

by: Michael Conrad

Fri Mar 05, 2010 at 20:11:02 PM EST


Health care reform quick hits and commentary.

It's going to be difficult to get the Democratic coalition behind behind this bill unless a Medicare Choice Buy - In is included.

The stated problem at this point is the Senate.  However, I would contend that the votes are there for the taking.  We have 37 Senators on board with the public option through reconciliation, including Feingold and Dodd.  6 more have every reason to support a Medicare Choice Buy - In, especially one with the President's support behind it (Akaka, Carper, Dorgan, Harkin, Kohl, and Rockefeller).  Tester, Baucus, Conrad, Hagan, McCaskill, Webb, Warner, Byrd, and Begich would give us 52 Senate votes -- two more than we need.

If vulnerable House members are the problem, adding this element only strengthens their chances for re - election.  No bill or an individual mandate without a public choice are both bad politically.  It's time for some real pragmatism.  The policy benefits of a public choice are obvious.  Why is a Medicare Choice Buy - In so important politically?

- MCBI would enable the grassroots to feel comfortable rallying around what is on the table now.
- MCBI would help energize the base in time for November.
- MCBI would be very popular, especially with Dems and swing voters.  "Medicare Choice Buy - In" is almost certain to poll somewhere between 65% and 75%.
- MCBI would put Republicans on the spot over their commitment to Medicare, because it would strengthen Medicare over the long - term.

UPDATE:  

This version corrects the earlier post that failed to make it clear that an MCBI couldn't be done until next year if it isn't included in this effort.

Also, McJoan has a really good post on maximizing the popularity of the legislation that passes.

- End Update -

Bill Scher has a useful round - up.

Sen. Tom Harkin sees reverse psychology at play. (h/t Greg Sargent)

Sen. Al Franken on a "make me do it" moment.

Sen. Robert Byrd sets "Glennbeckistan" straight.

Rep. Eric Massa's resignation moves the number for passage in the House back to 216.  

Rep. Anthony Weiner isn't giving up on an up or down vote for the public option.

If there isn't a vote on a meaningful public option / Medicare Buy - In, the spotlight is going to come back to the White House's deal with private hospitals.

Bottom line: I have a very hard time believing that there aren't at least 50 votes in the Senate for a Medicare Buy - In. And I know I'm not alone.  

Mike Lux:

The final package, while improved in some very significant ways from what the Senate passed, will be deeply flawed both policy-wise and politically. At this final moment of decision, though, I think progressives need to say yes to getting the bill passed.

...

For all the disappointments, for all the flaws, this legislation does some critically important things, and I believe it sets the stage for doing better things down the road. If Democrats can't get this passed now, the lesson that Democrats will learn is to never try anything big or difficult again. If we get this legislation passed, it begins to change the psychology of Democrats just a little: that they can succeed at being ambitious and that they can make big changes if they persevere in the face of big money and political challenges.

...

To all my progressive friends who have been fighting this long, hard fight on health care: I know not all of you agree with me that this bill should be passed. But I think on balance that this is the right thing to do, not only in terms of health care but in terms of our broader progressive agenda. Because of you, not even the fight for the public option is over (although it's way uphill). Let's stay on the field, keep fighting, get this bill done, and then keep fighting for better things in the future.

Rep. Raul Grijalva, co - chair of the House progressive caucus, talks to Ed Shultz about yesterday's meeting with President Obama.

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Thanks for this important diary and information (3.00 / 1)
If there isn't a vote on a meaningful public option, or a commitment to pursue a Medicare Buy - In within relatively soon, the spotlight is going to come back to the White House's deal with private hospitals.

That was something I certainly didn't know about and it makes sense. For shame.... Miles Mogulescu really shed some light on this for me though he states why I didn't know too; this hasn't been covered very much at all.

Thanks, MC.



There are so many moving parts to this (3.00 / 1)
It's hard to keep track of them all.  But some of the most important pieces have been overlooked.

Jon Walker's point about the standalone bill has received relatvely little attention as well, yet haven't seen any credible claim that he's wrong on the merits.  Quite the opposite, actually.

I think some of the people who rail against FDL are forgetting all of the positive, substantive things slinkerwink, Marcy Wheeler, David Dayden, and Jon Walker have added to the discussion.  I don't agree with everything Jane Hamsher writes or says, but she's certainly not "ruining the country" or whatever other statements the "a noun, a verb, and FDL" Caucus at Orangey McOrganerson make about her.  

I read an "ZOMG!  Jane Hamsher Is In Love With Teabaggers" post over there a while ago that was demonstrably redonkulous.  I wasn't a fan of the Norquist thing either, but there's a huge difference between glibertarian Club for Yachts, anti - union bearded turd (Norquist) and a Teabagger holding up appallingly racist signs.  They're mixing up their turdbearders and their teabaggers and that isn't good.  I can understand the initial confusion.  But after a while they should have said, "I still disagree with Jane's move on this, but she's not palling around with TruckNutzisists."  

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You are right (3.00 / 1)
Jon Walker and Marcy Wheeler are exemplary and I don't always agree with Jane Hamsher either, but FDL is not monolithic. The fact that Jane started the modern political blogospehre as we know it along with Markos should be respected and lumping everyone in with Jane would be like assuming everyone always agree with Markos and they don't.

The vitriolic hatred towards her by the "a noun, a verb, and FDL" Caucus at Orangey McOrganerson is pretty disgusting. It reminds me of the hatred towards Hillary Clinton that was there even after the primaries. I don't liek the Clintons and never supproted her, but it went too far and Jane is much more progressive than the Clintons though misguided at times. Her latest team up with Grover Norquist is misguided since Rahm has already been investigated for his ties with Fannie and Freddie and though there is some suspicious activity involved with him you can't convict on suspicion. Sometimes Jane doesn't think things completely through, but a lot of the time she does as well(and honestly sometimes you need unlikely allies as I was all about auditing the Fed which Grover signed onto as well like many other organizations and some happened to be astroturf, but I'm not going to let the house of cards game go untouched just because people I dislike also sign on). That list she complied was pretty impressive as referenced in that piece.

If something catches my eye I will respond, but I try not to look as hard, because I then run into crap like that on the kos(but when do respond to them, I kick their ass and I don't think that's being conceited to say because a lot of the community recs those comments) and I get mad and want to respond and it wastes time I should be spending on my career dreams which ironically don't have to do with politics, though they can converge in some ways.

slinkerwink now works with Darcy Burner(I love Darcy) and nyceve at the fix it and pass it project. slinkerwink is awesome and I always pay attention to her diaries. TomP too as well as nyceve. Turkana is also worth paying attention to.  

This is right on and nuance is not their strong point.

I wasn't a fan of the Norquist thing either, but there's a huge difference between glibertarian Club for Yachts, anti - union bearded turd (Norquist) and a Teabagger holding up appallingly racist signs.  They're mixing up their turdbearders and their teabaggers and that isn't good.  I can understand the initial confusion.  But after a while they should have said, "I still disagree with Jane's move on this, but she's not palling around with TruckNutzisists."  





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