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IF we get the Public Option, WHO will Get the Choice?

by: jamess

Sat Sep 19, 2009 at 21:43:01 PM EDT


Health Reform's Missing Ingredient
By Ron Wyden, Senator D-OR, NYTimes Op-Ed
September 17, 2009
The various bills making their way through Congress would, as the president explained, provide some consumer choice by establishing large marketplaces where people could easily compare insurance plans and pick the one that best suits their needs.
[...]
The problem with these bills, however, is that they would not make the exchanges available to all Americans. Only very small companies and those individuals who can't get insurance outside of the exchange - 25 million people - would be allowed to shop there. This would leave more than 200 million Americans with no more options, private or public, than they have today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09...


Wait a second, I thought the Public Option, would give us a Choice --
give US ALL a Choice?

The Insurance Exchange will be closed to "more than 200 million Americans"?

that must be a typo!?!

jamess :: IF we get the Public Option, WHO will Get the Choice?

This would leave more than 200 million Americans with no more options, private or public, than they have today.

Well that's a significant problem!


Jay Rockefeller, like Wyden, also gets to Vote on the final Baucus Bill, since they are among the "silent members" of that Committee.

Jay Rockefeller, like Wyden, is worried about those Americans -- who will get NO Choice, within the current Finance Bill. Worse yet, many Americans will be exempted from the New Rules, meant to improve Coverage quality, due to the insurance give-aways already written into the Bills.

What's Wrong With the Finance Bill? An Interview With Senator Jay Rockefeller.
By Ezra Klein,  Washington Post -- September 18, 2009


Question: Can you support the Finance Committee bill in its current form?

Rockefeller: No.

Why?

Rockefeller: Obviously the public option. I feel very strongly about that as a discipline on the private health insurance market.
[...]
Another issue is that 46 percent of the American people have health insurance from fairly large companies that self-insure. And they're not included in the regulations. They have to have protection from preexisting conditions and lifetime caps and rescissions too.


http://voices.washingtonpost.c...

Huh? What that?

... 46% of the Americans ... not included in the regulations [for] preexisting conditions and lifetime caps and rescissions.

Well that's another significant problem!


What is "Self Insurance" anyways -- since, almost half of us have it?

http://www.biztimes.com/news/2...
When to Self-Insure?
By Elizabeth Hockerman, of BizTimes

Any size company can become self-insured, which means that the company assumes the risk of paying medical claims [...] The majority of companies that are self-insured purchase stop/loss insurance. [...] The company pays every claim that is under $10,000, and the stop loss insurance would cover anything over $10,001.

Interesting, I wonder if those us with Self-Insured plans through our Employers, even know it?  I wonder if that 46% of us will end up with the Choice of a Public Option, assuming one is eventually passed, in one form or another?

Look out for Self-Insurance exclusions, Check!


Jay Rockefeller has stated he will NOT vote for the Baucus Bill in its current form.

Hopefully Ron Wyden will join him, since both are on Max Baucus' Finance Committee -- Yet, Neither Senator was included in Baucus' infamous "Gang of Six" -- aka. the "See No Evil from Insurers" Gang!

Both Senators DO get to Vote on the Final Finance Committee Bill however.

Ron Wyden is planning to leverage his Vote, by offering a "Real Choice" Admendment to Max's reversed- bi-partisan Bill:

Senator Ron Wyden: The Free Choice Proposal (pdf)
(selected legislative excerpts and emphasis added)

Brief Description:

The Free Choice Proposal gives EVERY American

the ability to either choose to keep the coverage they have
or
pick a plan
that works better for them and their family.

It guarantees both choice and portability

by creating a path for employers
to insure their workers through

a national
or
state-based insurance marketplace
known as the "Exchange."
[...]

Free Choice Will Help Working Americans

With the Free Choice Proposal, workers will be able to keep the coverage they have or go to the exchange if they want another plan.

Low-income workers will be ensured affordable health care.
[...]


Transition to the Free Choice System

Year 1 - People who are currently in the individual market plus small employers with up to 10 workers and the uninsured have access to the exchange.

Year 2 - Add small employers with up to 25 workers to the exchange.

Year 3 - Give State Medicaid programs the choice to be in exchange.

Year 4 - Open up the exchange to medium sized employers with up to 250 workers using the Free Choice approach.

Year 5 - Open exchanges to all employers.

Woo Hoo! -- I like that Result, in Year Five ... Hmmm? I wonder if "MY Public Option" Bill will do that?

Those are some good principles to be carried forward, into WHATEVER Reconciliation Committee Process eventually unfolds, in the upcoming months. Just because a Bill talks about the Public Option, it doesn't mean that YOU will get a Choice!

Consumers Beware!

In many ways a Watered-down Public Option, is more dangerous than NO Public Option. A Watered-down Public Option would give us the illusion of Change, WITHOUT the sweeping RESULTS OF actual CHANGE!


Without Wyden's "Free Choice" Amendment, the Baucus Bill is a non-starter. It's little more than a Gift to the Insurance Lobby -- mandating coverage, while restricting Consumer Choice of "qualified private plans", and excluding a Choice to a Public Option entirely!

Well there ARE OTHER Health Care Bills out there, that do INCLUDE the Public Option, Right?. What kind of Choice, do Consumer's get in those competing Bills?


Here's the Kennedy Bill, which is being promoted by Jay Rockefeller lately:
(By the way, Kennedy Bill IS a Bi-partisan Bill, unlike the "Faux Baucus Bill".)


The Affordable Health Choices Act

In July 2009, Senator Kennedy's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee passed The Affordable Health Choices Act, landmark legislation that will reduce health costs, protect individuals' choice in doctors and plans, and assure quality and affordable health care for all Americans.

The legislation builds on the existing employer-based system and strengthens it. If people like the health insurance they have, they get to keep it. The bill provides better choices for those with no coverage now, and those for whom coverage is unaffordable. It also gives small businesses better options for high value health coverage.


Ted Kennedy's Web Site


If people like the health insurance they have, they get to keep it.

OK ... What if they "Don't like" their health insurance plan, DO they get to Exchange it? ... do we get to trade in our Clunkers, for a better model, here?


Good question.  Let check some of the legislative specifics from Kennedy's Affordable Health Choices Act, designed to HELP ordinary Americans:

In Historic Vote, HELP Committee Approves the Affordable Health Choices Act
July 15, 2009

(selected legislative excerpts and emphasis added)

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The Senate's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee today passed The Affordable Health Choices Act, landmark legislation that will reduce health costs, protect individuals' choice in doctors and plans, and assure quality and affordable heath care for Americans. The bipartisan bill includes more than 160 Republican amendments accepted during the month-long mark-up, one of the longest in Congressional history.

The bill also includes a strong public option that responds to the wishes of the American people to have a clear alternative to for-profit insurance companies. Like private insurance plans The Community Health Insurance Option will be available through the American Health Benefit Gateway, a new way for individuals and small employers to find and purchase quality and affordable health insurance in every state.

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimates the bill to cost less than $615 billion over 10 years.


Subtitle B. Available Coverage for All Americans

Synopsis: This subtitle authorizes the establishment of an Affordable Health Benefit Gateway in each state and of a Community Health Insurance Plan.

Planning grants are provided to each state to support the creation of state Gateways.

States can establish Gateways as quickly they wish, thus qualifying their residents for premium credits.

If a state takes no action, the Secretary will establish and operate that state's Gateway.

Gateways are established to help
qualified individuals and
qualified employer groups
to purchase affordable health insurance and related insurance products.


The Gateway will establish procedures

to qualify health plans to be offered through them,
develop tools to enable consumers to obtain coverage,
establish open enrollment periods, and
assist consumers in the purchase of long term services and supports.


Affordable Choices of Health Benefit Plans.

Each state will have an Affordable Health Benefit Gateway,
established either by the state or
by the Secretary of Health and Human Services
that will be administered through a governmental agency or
non-profit organization.

Within 60 days of enactment, the Secretary will make planning grant awards to states to undertake activities related
to establishing their own Gateway.

The Gateway exists to facilitate voluntary purchase of health insurance coverage and related insurance products
at an affordable price by
qualified individuals and
qualified employer groups.

States may require benefits in addition to essential health benefits but must assume additional costs.

Risk pools include all enrollees in an individual plan
or a group health plan.


The Gateway will include a public health insurance option.

The Gateway will establish procedures to qualify
interested health plans to offer
their health insurance policies through the Gateway. (§ 3101)


Subtitle D. Shared Responsibility for Health Care

Definitions: (§ 3116)

"An eligible employee" is an individual for whom if the employer-sponsored coverage does not meet criteria for minimum qualifying coverage or is not affordable for the employee.

"A qualified individual" is residing in a participating or establishing State, not incarcerated, not eligible for Medicare or Medicaid, TRICARE, FEHBP, or any qualifying employer-sponsored coverage.


HELP Committee Approves the Affordable Health Choices Act (pdf)

Hmmm? that's a lot of "qualifiers"!?

Do we, or Do we Not -- Get a Choice of the Public Option, offered in the Exchange?

if the employer-sponsored coverage does not meet criteria for minimum qualifying coverage or is not affordable for the employee.

Those are 2 Big IFs.  ... Kind of sounds like, It's up to the Employer -- NOT up to US!


SO What kind of Choice do we Consumer's get in the popular House Bill -- H.R. 3200?

America's Affordable Health Choices Act: Complete Bill Text (H.R. 3200)

(selected legislative excerpts and emphasis added)

-- A Health Insurance Exchange.

The new Health Insurance Exchange creates a transparent and functional marketplace

for individuals and small employers

to comparison shop among private and public insurers.

It works with state insurance departments to set and enforce

insurance reforms and
consumer protections,
facilitates enrollment, and
administers affordability credits to help low- and middle-income individuals and families purchase insurance.

Over time, the Exchange will be opened to additional employers as another choice for covering their employees.

States may opt to operate the Exchange in lieu of the national Exchange provided they follow the federal rules.


-- A public health insurance option.

One of the many choices of health insurance within the Health Insurance Exchange

is a public health insurance option.

It will be a new choice in many areas of our country dominated by just one or two private insurers today.

The public option will operate on a level playing field.

It will be subject to the same market reforms and consumer protections as other private plans in the Exchange and

it will be self-sustaining - financed only by its premiums.


America's Affordable Health Choices Act: Summary (pdf)

OK that's a Good Summary of the House Bill.  Sounds like it plans to -- much like the Wyden "Free Choice" Proposal -- to eventually expand to all employers:

Over time, the Exchange will be opened to additional employers as another choice for covering their employees.

Does "be opened to" -- mean employers, have to offer it?

Does "additional employers"  imply ALL employers? ... not really.


Drilling further into the nitty, gritty of HR 3200:

America's Affordable Health Choices Act Section-by-Section Analysis
July 14, 2009

(selected legislative excerpts and emphasis added)

TITLE I - PROTECTIONS AND STANDARDS FOR QUALIFIED HEALTH BENEFITS PLANS

SUBTITLE C - STANDARDS GUARANTEEING ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL BENEFITS

Sec. 121. Coverage of essential benefits package.

Requires qualified plans to meet the benefit standards recommended by the Benefits Advisory Committee and adopted by the Secretary of HHS.

Plans outside the Exchange must offer
at least the essential benefits
and others as they choose.

Plans within the Exchange must meet
the specified benefit packages,
which includes a tier with offerings of additional benefits.

Allows for the continued offering of separate
excepted benefits packages
as in current law outside of the Exchange.


TITLE II-HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE AND RELATED PROVISIONS

SUBTITLE A - HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE

Sec. 202. Exchange-eligible individuals and employers.

Defines who is eligible for participation in the Health Insurance Exchange
including employers and individuals.

In year one,
individuals not enrolled in other acceptable coverage
are allowed into the Exchange
as well as small employers with 10 or fewer employees.

In year two,
employers with 20 and fewer employees are allowed into the Exchange.

In subsequent years, the Health Choices Commissioner is granted authority to
expand employer participation as appropriate,
with the goal of allowing all employers access to the Exchange.


SUBTITLE B - PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION

Sec. 221. Establishment and administration of a public health insurance option as an Exchange-qualified health benefits plan.

Requires the Secretary of Health and Human Services to develop a public health insurance option

to be offered starting in 2013 as a plan choice
within
the Health Insurance Exchange.

It participates on a level playing field with private plan choices.

Like private plans, it must
offer the same benefits,
abide by the same insurance market reforms,
follow provider network requirements and
other consumer protections.

Sec. 222. Premiums and financing.

Premiums for the public option are geographically-adjusted
and are required to be set so as to fully cover
the cost of coverage as well as
administrative costs of the plan.

This includes a requirement that the public option,
like private plans, include
a contingency margin in its premium to cover unexpected cost variations.

In order to establish the public option, there is an initial appropriation of $2 billion for administrative costs and in order to provide for initial claims reserves before the collection of premiums such sums as necessary to cover 90 days worth of claims reserves based on projected enrollment.

These start up funds are amortized into the premiums for the public option to be recouped over the first 10 years of operation.

The plan must be self-sustaining after that initial funding.


Section-by-Section Analysis (pdf)

OK, this is good to see:

goal of allowing all employers access to the Exchange

It's Good to Have Goals!!

This one bit of legislation however, kind of seems like a worrisome Weasle Word restriction:

In year one, individuals not enrolled in other acceptable coverage are allowed into the Exchange as well as small employers with 10 or fewer employees.

Which Lobbyist, I wonder, wrote that clause:
"not enrolled in other acceptable coverage"

Who decides what is "acceptable coverage" or not?

Who decides what is "affordable coverage" or not?

Who decides if and when, we get to go into the Insurance Exchange, no questions asked?


When I want to shop for a New Car, I don't have to check with anyone, least of all my Employer -- I just go out into the Market, and find the best deal!


This leads me back to Senator Wyden again.  He is calling for ALL Americans to be offered the Choice on the Exchange.

Wyden is advocating that giving EVERYONE a CHOICE, is critical for the competitive forces of an "open" Marketplace, to drive down the Costs for everyone.


Health Reform's Missing Ingredient
By Ron Wyden, Senator D-OR, NYTimes Op-Ed
September 17, 2009

Under the nation's current employer-based system, most people have little if any choice about where they get their insurance. They just have to accept the plan that comes with their job. That insurance company, in turn, is provided a captive group of customers, so it has no incentive to earn their loyalty.
[...]
I believe there is a way to work with the present employer-based system to guarantee that all Americans have choices, and I am proposing it in an amendment to the latest Senate health care bill. My amendment, called Free Choice, would let everyone choose his health insurance plan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09...

Question: Without giving EVERYONE a Free CHOICE, Does a competitive Marketplace, even exist??

... or rather, Without that Choice for Everyone, aren't we really continuing with the "captive group of customers" that make up the Status Quo of our current Insurance system?  ...

Consumers with NO Choice, are Easy Pickins for Big Insurers! (especially when those Consumers, are mandated by law, to get Coverage.)


In many ways a Watered-down Public Option, is more dangerous than NO Public Option. A Watered-down Public Option would give us the illusion of Change, WITHOUT the sweeping RESULTS OF CHANGE!

Any Bill that the Insurance Industry is happy with, is a Bill which simply perpetuates the Status Quo -- our Premium Payments should GUARANTEE us Quality Care, at an Affordable Price -- NOT just more of the same!

A Strong Public Option, available to EVERY American who wants it, will force Private Insurers, to provide Quality, or to Fail.

It would level the Playing Field, so that Insurers, can feel the Pain of "hearing that word NO!"

A Strong Public Option, means American citizens would get that Choice, to SAY NO! -- say NO to our Faux Care Policies!  


No Longer, would "NO" be that exclusive weapon, of the Insurance "Money Changers" -- By giving US the chance to SAY NO to THEM -- the true Force of the Marketplace will be brought to bear, wielded from where it belongs --

In the hands of the People!

By giving EVERYONE the Choice ... WE end up in the Driver's Seat, driving the Process of Real SWEEPING Change, for the benefit of All the People!

... and not just the privileged few.

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Real Choice

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Faux Choice!



In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act -- George Orwell


Wyden is sounding the alarm (3.00 / 3)

about Faux Choice, but not many are hearing him yet.

Sen. Wyden: You Can Have Any Healthcare Choice as Long as it is Not a Public Option

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

around time mark 4:00

Jonathan: Senator, you said that by 2019, 90% of the American People will be barred from the Public Option. Could you explain why that is?

Wyden: In effect, If a Govt Bureaucrat says your 'Coverage is Affordable' -- and something like 170 million people get their coverage through an Employer-based system -- you couldn't go out in the Marketplace; you couldn't go to the Exchange.

So we took a look at the CBO Numbers, and we basically found the only people that really get to go to the Exchange, are folks you are unemployed and uninsured, and small businesses. many of the unemployed, and these groups overlap, so that it become a very small fraction. It's done primarily to protect the Status Quo.

I think there is a 'sweet spot' in between blowing up the Employer-based system and just saying you can't improved it. I think that 'Free Choice' will get us there -- and will give all Americans choices, and will over a 4 or 5 year period, this legislation needs to make that possible.



In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act -- George Orwell

Wyden's "Free Choice" Amendment is now one of 500 amendments (3.00 / 4)
I listened to him describe it on NPR today and he was talking down the Public Option while stating that employees should be able to opt out of their employer's plan if they can find something cheaper by taking the cash from their employer and pocketing the difference.

What I said to my radio when I heard him was "Wyden you fucking asshole. Is that the best you can do?" I have a good reason for my thinking. First why come up with something so off the wall complicated. Second, what's the best way to undermine an employer based plan? Well leave it to Wyden, to figure it out. Just set up the employer so all their youngest employees can extract their share from the risk pool and go buy the most basic package so they have pocket money for a trip to Cabo San Lucas.

This leaves the employer with covering the higher risk and more expensive employees who can't find a cheaper policy. Without the young workers to bring down the premiums, the end result become the employer not being able to afford the premiums. So every worker gets tiny or no raises to continue coverage while the people who can find lower premiums become the root cause.

And you know what else I thought. I thought it is being taken seriously over the other 499 amendments because it makes a perfect smoke screen. But having seen the results from Obama's favorite health care reform specialist, I've gotten a little cynical.        

"Democracy only works when we claim it as our own" -Bill Moyers


Here's a link to the NPR story (3.00 / 4)
In Sen. Wyden Still Hoping For Bipartisan Health Bill (the title alone makes me sick) Guy Raz opens with the fact that Wyden is against the public option and then Wyden explains his brand of bullshit.

If you listen I think you will agree that the man is completely full of shit.


"Democracy only works when we claim it as our own" -Bill Moyers


[ Parent ]
I have to disgaree with you here, I don't trust Wyden's proposal (3.00 / 4)
Though some things are good, there is ultimately no cost containment, I'm with Jay Rockefeller. Wyden has never supported a public option or given a clear reason as to why not.

Wyden wants everyone to be able to access junk insurance and employer insurance has been dwindling down for years and without any cost controlling mechanism I don't see employer insurance being improved on. Wyden contradicts himself when he complains about Government bureaucrats(I really hate when Democrats use that language) and employer based coverage while he then portends to want to keep employer coverage while wanting to dismantle it at the same time.  I don't think access to a few insurance monopolies is real choice as the same reason employers can't afford coverage is the same reason people can't afford coverage and that is unsustainable for profit junk insurance with rising premiums.

You can't say an exchange of private insurance is a real choice without a safety net that will protect those being dropped as employer insurance dwindles and as people are unable to afford private insurance anyway which is why most people get covered by their employers in the first place.

As the percent of uninsured is expected to rise in conjunction with a slumping economy, it is all the more imperative that meaningful health reform be passed. The current recession highlights the lack of security people experience as they lose their job, their financial security, and their access to health insurance.

As President Obama reiterated in his speech before a joint session of Congress on Wednesday night, this country needs bold, comprehensive national reform. As employer-sponsored insurance has failed many Americans throughout the 2000s, even during an economic expansion, it is important to ask whether we should rely on this system as the primary and back-up source of coverage for our under-65 population. A safety net in the form of a national exchange with a public insurance option is vital to make sure those that lose their jobs do not also lose their access to coverage.

Also, The Urban Institute estimates that under a worse case scenario, 66 million Americans will be uninsured by 2019. Looks like a lot more people will be eligible for the Public Option than Wyden wants people to think as it is a safety net for this 66 million. More and more people are going to be eligible as insurance companies don't act the way they say they will which they won't.

I like the HELP bill and HR 3200 even though the public option is weaker than I want, it's still better than no public option because it is a safety net who will catch those who will no longer be able to afford coverage of any type which is what is going to happen.

A public option can be improved on(SS was improved on) and the reason it is so important, is because we know what insurance companies will do and all this market speak Wyden is spouting is essentially meaningless as it has the same language Wendell Potter has spotted that reeks of insurance company swiss cheese regulations(that they will be writing themselves which is why Wyden is downplaying any public option) which are essentially meaningless with that mechanism. I wish we could just buy into Medicare right away, but a safety net public option is better than none and relying on "choice" or "monopolies." to regulate themselves with no pressure, because where are people going to go in the exchange? A few monopolies and that's it.

This choice assumes these regulations that insurance companies will stick with loopholes will suffice without any cost containment or safety net(what the public option is starting out) Eddie C's comment is a good one; employers would not have a deduction if enough employees are allowed to decide to opt out of the company plan. Then when insurance is still unaffordable even with the crap subsidies in the Baucus bill(and ineffective) without a public option in the exchange (Wyden just admitted the subsidies are not enough when Ezra Klein pushed him on it. Inefficient subsidies for unaffordable junk coverage is the choice) there is no real change in our system. Notice Wyden never argues for improving the public option, he is only using it as an excuse with the CBO estimate.

How many times can you say "choices." This gets to a distraction as to why we are where we are. No one is going to break these insurance monopolies up, only supposedly regulate them without cost control? Without any administrative cost control?  Also the CBO analysis is a baseline estimate, it's not barring people by law because the estimates go by existing law from year by year and as more people are uninsured which is what we know will happen in our market(this eerily reminds me of Medicare Part D and we now know that is a drainer of effectiveness and it's bankrupting Medicare) more people will be eligible for the public insurance option which needs to be part of the exchange, though I would prefer sooner than 2013, better than Wyden's market speak and what he is framing as a choice.

And year 5 is about the same time a public option would be available. As Eddie C notes, letting young people access the exchange among other employees without the employer making that decision will cause employer insurance to falter more than it already is; the exchange is there in case employers decide(and they probably will) that they can't afford it anymore(which will happen) and so then the employees opt in to the exchange once employers decide to opt out of their tax deduction for the covering their employees. However, there is no choice without a safety net to catch those who fall through the junk insurance cracks which is what the exchange is without a safety net to catch the windfall of uninsured expected to rise with private insurance whether employer based or not.

I'm disappointed of course that we have compromised our compromise form single payer, but relying on market speak and whatever the hell a "choice" is in our monopolistic insurance market is absolutely no change and nothing to build on like SS was built on. that is why a public option of any sort is worth fighting for and i;m happy to see Senator Rockefeller doing so.

I don't mean to give you a hard time and I know Wyden is your Senator and I love Pete Defazio in the House, but Wyden has proven himself unworthy of my trust and this is why of course this is just my take.

You do have a lot of important information here, though jamess and it is a pretty good diary even if i disagree with you this time.



Wyden's point, as I read it ... (3.00 / 2)

is that everyone must get choice to the exchange,
and that the other bills, only allow access to the exchange,
in dribs and drabs. To the select few -- the uninsured, the unemployed, and small business.


Wyden doesn't specifically say whether or not
the Public Option should be in that Exchange.
Not that I recall anyways.

I'm sure he'd rather see his own HC Bill enacted --
but that's not likely, and is NOT what I would want to see either. I haven't heard him say that he is
specifically against the P.O. -- only against how limited the Public's Access to it will be, as currently drafted.


If Wyden is successful with his Amendments, and Rockefeller with his,
we may end of with the best of both, in the Bill --
a strong Public Option,
that is Available to Everyone.
That is something I'd like to see!


thx all for the comments.



In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act -- George Orwell


Is this the problem? (3.00 / 2)
If the problem is that the system is good but more people should have access to it - that is no reason to stand firm against the system being put in place.

With a robust public option, it may be a "mere" 30 million beneficiaries - all in health exchanges benefit, after all, whichever choice they make - but 30 million people is a lot of beneficiaries.

Why focus on this when there is a much bigger scandal hidden in the bills: none of the public options are publicly administered health care plans. They are all outsourced to vaguely identified "entities" - but we know full well that means they are to be outsourced to the same health insurance corporations that caused the problems.

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